Looking for bew Freeride board (Current board Elan Endless)

Nov 10, 2007 1:34pm

procat 9 post(s)

Hello all, i am looking for a new board. Been riding for some years on my current board an Elan Endless. Can anybody shed some light on the stiffness/flex of this board, it is my first board, so i can´t compare it to others from my experience. I am looking for a freeride board/all mountain board. Is the Vertigo an option, i am in doubt because in reviews this board get the mark as being very stiff and a boardex board. Or would the Ascent be a better option ?

Regards Rob

Nov 10, 2007 5:23pm

cheshirefoxxx 322 post(s)

your board is similar to the Crest.. but the ascent would be a nice upgrade.. the vertigo would be ultra quick and responsive i could imagine

Nov 13, 2007 7:26pm

procat 9 post(s)

Thanks for the note on the Crest Cheshirefoxxx. If now i just could make up my mind.

greetz Rob

Nov 13, 2007 10:17pm

Kurly 29 post(s)

vertigo is hard core to the bone…as i hear :)
endless goes more with pure or crest iguess

Nov 23, 2007 4:45am

mesier 21 post(s)

Next week I will compare new Vertigo and Ascent in official distributor’s test, and then I’ll post my own opinion about both boards.
I rode Ascent during last season and I think this board best for powder, forest riding. Probably for hard windpacked snow Vertigo may be more appropriate. I’ll hope to clear up this next week.

Nov 28, 2007 12:05am

procat 9 post(s)

I am looking forward to read the outcome of the test. Rob

Dec 4, 2007 9:40am

mesier 21 post(s)

Yeah, I do this!
I ride Ascent during 2nd season and instinctively compare all snowboards with this one.
Ascent, as I said, excellent in powder, forest riding and on the slope prepared with snowcat. But not usable on the slope with mounds. I was say about this with elan’s dealer and he say the same.

About Vertigo. This snowboard most suitable in snow conditions like this: hard packed snow (prepared with snowcat), wind packed snow, soft or hard bumpy off-piste, soft snow with many old traces. Excellent stability and edge running. Unsufficient maneuverability in forest riding. Slow turns in powder. You need more speed to make your ride fun. Otherwise Vertigo looks stupid. For experts only! If you have more facedowns with this snowboard, then you actually noob who only think that already pro. Kinda Vertigo want to say you: “Take other snowboard and go to snowboard school”.
Also I was try to ride Artec 4.3. I think that Artec 4.3 is most universal. Fast turns, good stability on the slope looks like for mogul. Nice fast turns in powder. I would like to got this as one snowboard for all snow conditions.

PS: Sorry for my bad English…
“Bumpy off-piste” slope and “stability and edge running” hears correctly?
Sorry. Translating difficulties…

Dec 6, 2007 1:52am

mesier 21 post(s)

No one confirm or refuse my opinion?

Dec 6, 2007 2:10am

Agent-G 469 post(s)

your English is fine, except I still dont know what piste is.

Dec 6, 2007 3:13am

kiwi 100 post(s)

A piste is a marked ski run or, in other words, a “groomer”.
To go off-piste is simply to go where it is not groomed.

Dec 6, 2007 3:31am

Agent-G 469 post(s)

ahhhh! how is it that you know that Kiwi?

Dec 6, 2007 5:39am

kiwi 100 post(s)

Is that a trick question?

Dec 6, 2007 10:40am

Pav 368 post(s)

“piste” is mostly used in Europe. “slope” is used in CND and USA:)

Dec 6, 2007 3:26pm

kiwi 100 post(s)

Nobody I know says “slope”. We call ‘em groomers. And I say off-piste all the time but that may just be me…I’ve lived in so many countries my language is not very American at times.

Dec 6, 2007 5:43pm

kiwi 100 post(s)

Also I am f**king brilliant.
That answers your question Agent-G.

Dec 7, 2007 10:17am

Pav 368 post(s)

and that is that period. kiwi said it all :)

Dec 15, 2007 1:39pm

procat 9 post(s)

Hai mesier, sorry for the late response, i didn’t check the forum for a while. Thanks for the comparision, i can understand your post very well, when reading about the vertigo, it doesn’t seem as a good fit for my needs.

I think i´ll just wait another year with buying a new board, if i can i´ll try to rent a artec board, to see how it behave.

regards Rob

Dec 17, 2007 11:10pm

Pav 368 post(s)

wait another year? oh..then you weren’t really that urgent on getting a new one. I probably wouldn’t wait a year.

Dec 20, 2007 11:06pm

procat 9 post(s)

Pav, i didn’t state that i must have a new board this year, nothing wrong with my current one. I would like step up a bit and i am trying find out what is good board matching my current and future skills. Also i can only spend my money once

Rob

Dec 21, 2007 8:07am

mesier 21 post(s)

procat
Yeah, Artec – true choice!
But yet, if you think about Elan Ascent, then get it right now, don’t hold over.
Next season Elan will discontinue production of this one.

Dec 21, 2007 11:10pm

Pav 368 post(s)

Oh ok cool with that :) I guess the best 4 you would be to try some boards out (if you get a chance. Sometimes they have these “try our boards” days at resorts :) )

Feb 7, 2008 11:39am

eddie 11 post(s)

pav consider the el grande, i’m rideing with this kind of board and it’s really fantastic both on slope and in powder. the omega sidecut works very well and the board is really agile and fast also in forest riding.

Nov 10, 2007 1:34pm procat 9 post(s)	Hello all, i am looking for a new board. Been riding for some years on my current board an Elan Endless. Can anybody shed some light on the stiffness/flex of this board, it is my first board, so i can´t compare it to others from my experience. I am looking for a freeride board/all mountain board. Is the Vertigo an option, i am in doubt because in reviews this board get the mark as being very stiff and a boardex board. Or would the Ascent be a better option ? Regards Rob

Nov 10, 2007 5:23pm cheshirefoxxx 322 post(s)	your board is similar to the Crest.. but the ascent would be a nice upgrade.. the vertigo would be ultra quick and responsive i could imagine

Nov 13, 2007 7:26pm procat 9 post(s)	Thanks for the note on the Crest Cheshirefoxxx. If now i just could make up my mind. `greetz Rob`

Nov 13, 2007 10:17pm Kurly 29 post(s)	vertigo is hard core to the bone…as i hear :) endless goes more with pure or crest iguess

Nov 23, 2007 4:45am mesier 21 post(s)	Next week I will compare new Vertigo and Ascent in official distributor’s test, and then I’ll post my own opinion about both boards. I rode Ascent during last season and I think this board best for powder, forest riding. Probably for hard windpacked snow Vertigo may be more appropriate. I’ll hope to clear up this next week.

Nov 28, 2007 12:05am procat 9 post(s)	I am looking forward to read the outcome of the test. Rob

Dec 4, 2007 9:40am mesier 21 post(s)	Yeah, I do this! I ride Ascent during 2nd season and instinctively compare all snowboards with this one. Ascent, as I said, excellent in powder, forest riding and on the slope prepared with snowcat. But not usable on the slope with mounds. I was say about this with elan’s dealer and he say the same. About Vertigo. This snowboard most suitable in snow conditions like this: hard packed snow (prepared with snowcat), wind packed snow, soft or hard bumpy off-piste, soft snow with many old traces. Excellent stability and edge running. Unsufficient maneuverability in forest riding. Slow turns in powder. You need more speed to make your ride fun. Otherwise Vertigo looks stupid. For experts only! If you have more facedowns with this snowboard, then you actually noob who only think that already pro. Kinda Vertigo want to say you: “Take other snowboard and go to snowboard school”. Also I was try to ride Artec 4.3. I think that Artec 4.3 is most universal. Fast turns, good stability on the slope looks like for mogul. Nice fast turns in powder. I would like to got this as one snowboard for all snow conditions. PS: Sorry for my bad English… “Bumpy off-piste” slope and “stability and edge running” hears correctly? Sorry. Translating difficulties…

Dec 6, 2007 1:52am mesier 21 post(s)	No one confirm or refuse my opinion?

Dec 6, 2007 2:10am Agent-G 469 post(s)	your English is fine, except I still dont know what piste is.

Dec 6, 2007 3:13am kiwi 100 post(s)	A piste is a marked ski run or, in other words, a “groomer”. To go off-piste is simply to go where it is not groomed.

Dec 6, 2007 3:31am Agent-G 469 post(s)	ahhhh! how is it that you know that Kiwi?

Dec 6, 2007 5:39am kiwi 100 post(s)	Is that a trick question?

Dec 6, 2007 10:40am Pav 368 post(s)	“piste” is mostly used in Europe. “slope” is used in CND and USA:)

Dec 6, 2007 3:26pm kiwi 100 post(s)	Nobody I know says “slope”. We call ‘em groomers. And I say off-piste all the time but that may just be me…I’ve lived in so many countries my language is not very American at times.

Dec 6, 2007 5:43pm kiwi 100 post(s)	Also I am f**king brilliant. That answers your question Agent-G.

Dec 7, 2007 10:17am Pav 368 post(s)	and that is that period. kiwi said it all :)

Dec 15, 2007 1:39pm procat 9 post(s)	Hai mesier, sorry for the late response, i didn’t check the forum for a while. Thanks for the comparision, i can understand your post very well, when reading about the vertigo, it doesn’t seem as a good fit for my needs. I think i´ll just wait another year with buying a new board, if i can i´ll try to rent a artec board, to see how it behave. regards Rob

Dec 17, 2007 11:10pm Pav 368 post(s)	wait another year? oh..then you weren’t really that urgent on getting a new one. I probably wouldn’t wait a year.

Dec 20, 2007 11:06pm procat 9 post(s)	Pav, i didn’t state that i must have a new board this year, nothing wrong with my current one. I would like step up a bit and i am trying find out what is good board matching my current and future skills. Also i can only spend my money once Rob

Dec 21, 2007 8:07am mesier 21 post(s)	procat Yeah, Artec – true choice! But yet, if you think about Elan Ascent, then get it right now, don’t hold over. Next season Elan will discontinue production of this one.

Dec 21, 2007 11:10pm Pav 368 post(s)	Oh ok cool with that :) I guess the best 4 you would be to try some boards out (if you get a chance. Sometimes they have these “try our boards” days at resorts :) )

Feb 7, 2008 11:39am eddie 11 post(s)	pav consider the el grande, i’m rideing with this kind of board and it’s really fantastic both on slope and in powder. the omega sidecut works very well and the board is really agile and fast also in forest riding.